Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/13/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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SENATE BILL NO. 221                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act  making   appropriations,  including   capital                                                                   
     appropriations,    supplemental   appropriations,    and                                                                   
     appropriations  to capitalize  funds; and providing  for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                   DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY   BURNETT,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE,  listed the requests for the                                                                   
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #42933                                                                                                                  
Permanent Fund Dividend Computer Replacement Project                                                                            
$125,000 PFD Funds                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett  explained  that it  is  the  fourth year  of  a                                                                   
cyclical  PFD  replacement  project  for  desktop  computers,                                                                   
printers, servers, and office support equipment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #42945                                                                                                                  
Child Support Services Computer Replacement Project                                                                             
$128,040 Federal Receipts                                                                                                       
$65,960 Receipt Services                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AT-EASE:       9:42:20 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE:     9:43:06 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett continued  to explain the Child  Support Services                                                                   
Computer  Replacement  Project,  which  is  also  part  of  a                                                                   
replacement cycle for office equipment and computers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  turned to  Information Technology projects  that                                                                   
were funded out of FY 08 funds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas asked if the PFD  Computer Replacement Project                                                                   
- Phase 4,  is the end of  the funding request.   Mr. Burnett                                                                   
clarified  that  it is  a  continuous  four-year  replacement                                                                   
process for a similar amount each year.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45340                                                                                                                  
Oil and Gas Production Tax System Replacement                                                                                   
$2,620,800 General Funds                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  reported that the  new tax system  would replace                                                                   
the old one.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  recalled a  recommendation during  the special                                                                   
session  to buy  a  program "off  the  shelf".   Mr.  Burnett                                                                   
replied that the cost to do an  analysis for that would be in                                                                   
the $20 million range.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:48:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45343                                                                                                                  
Corporate Tax/Motor Fuel Tax System Replacement                                                                                 
$830,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  reported that  the allocation  would fund  a new                                                                   
system to  replace the  old one.   There is  a risk  with the                                                                   
Motor Fuel Tax System now because it's not stable.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #45344                                                                                                                  
Mining Tax System Replacement                                                                                                   
$460,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  addressed the need  for a new mining  tax system                                                                   
due to the increase in mining in the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #45545                                                                                                                  
PowerBuilder Replacement Feasibility Study                                                                                      
$300,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett explained  that the  PowerBuilder  is a  program                                                                   
language  that the  department  has been  using  to build  an                                                                   
integrated tax system.  It is no longer the state standard.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:50:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton   asked  if  the  previous   three  technology                                                                   
requests  were PowerBuilder.    Mr. Burnett  said they  were.                                                                   
Senator  Elton  asked  why  $4   million  was  requested  for                                                                   
PowerBuilder when  it was going to be replaced.   Mr. Burnett                                                                   
explained that  the PowerBuilder  system was familiar  to the                                                                   
programmers and  contractors.  Newer versions  are compatible                                                                   
with the state's current system  and an attempt is being made                                                                   
to not  have to rewrite  the system.   Senator Elton  pointed                                                                   
out that $4 million was being  spent on the old system, which                                                                   
may  be replaced.   Mr.  Burnett  shared a  concern with  the                                                                   
production tax system,  which should not be  a manual process                                                                   
in  light of  new information  reporting  requirements.   The                                                                   
solution needs to be in the near term.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested  all of the items be  ranked.  Mr.                                                                   
Burnett agreed to do that.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:53:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             ALASKA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DAN FAUSKE,  CEO/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA HOUSING  FINANCE                                                                   
CORPORATION (AHFC),  DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE, reported  on the                                                                   
successes of AHFC.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LES  CAMPBELL,  DIRECTOR,  BUDGET,   ALASKA  HOUSING  FINANCE                                                                   
CORPORATION,   DEPARTMENT    OF   REVENUE,    addressed   the                                                                   
department's requests.   The first three projects  have to do                                                                   
with the administration of AHFC.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #45379                                                                                                                  
AHFC Public Housing Software Replacement Project                                                                                
$1,250,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell explained that the  purpose of the program is to                                                                   
purchase,  implement,  support, and  provide  training for  a                                                                   
software  system  that  will help  manage  the  Corporation's                                                                   
public housing  programs.  The  current software  is outdated                                                                   
and  a  new  system is  critical  to  support  AHFC's  rental                                                                   
housing programs.   A new  system would make compliance  with                                                                   
HUD regulations much easier.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:56:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45382                                                                                                                  
AHFC Phone System Replacement                                                                                                   
$450,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell related  the reason for the request:  to replace                                                                   
AHFC's   phone    system   with   a   Voice-Over-IP    (VOIP)                                                                   
infrastructure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #45383                                                                                                                  
AHFC Human Resources/Payroll Implementation                                                                                     
$387,900 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell said  the request is to complete  the process of                                                                   
a new HR  payroll function for  AHFC.  The current  system is                                                                   
over  15 years  old and  does  not have  the capabilities  to                                                                   
provide  needed  reports  and  information,  or  capture  the                                                                   
employee  information required.   The  new system will  fully                                                                   
integrate  human  resources,   benefits  administration,  and                                                                   
payroll functions.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:58:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #37918                                                                                                                  
AHFC Housing  Loan Program/Teacher  Health and Public  Safety                                                                   
Professionals Housing                                                                                                           
$8,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell explained  that this is an on-going  request and                                                                   
provides  gap funding  to increase  homeownership and  rental                                                                   
units throughout the state.  The  program is designed to help                                                                   
retain  desirable  professionals  in high-cost  areas.    The                                                                   
projected  outcomes  would  include  an addition  of  62  new                                                                   
units, increased  affordability for housing purchases  by low                                                                   
income families,  lower interest  rate on mortgage  programs,                                                                   
and a statewide housing conference.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #6323                                                                                                                   
AHFC Supplemental Housing Development Program                                                                                   
$8,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell noted that the request  would supplement federal                                                                   
HUD funds and would be used to  cover costs related to water,                                                                   
sewer,  and   electrical  systems,   as  well  as   for  road                                                                   
construction  to project  sites  and site  development.   The                                                                   
funds are  limited to 20  percent of HUD's total  development                                                                   
cost  per  unit   and  cannot  be  used   for  administrative                                                                   
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #6332                                                                                                                   
AHFC Low Income Weatherization                                                                                                  
$6,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
$2,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell explained the purpose  of the program to provide                                                                   
cost-effective  energy improvements  to  homes of  low-income                                                                   
families.   Weatherization provides  for fire safety  through                                                                   
furnace  and  electrical  repairs,   education,  chimney  and                                                                   
woodstove  repairs,  and egress  windows.    It is  the  same                                                                   
program that was funded in the supplemental budget.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:00:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  how the  request fits  into SB  189.                                                                   
Mr. Campbell  explained that  it is  the same program  except                                                                   
that SB 189  expands the program beyond low  income families.                                                                   
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if the request is required  since the                                                                   
bill  passed.   Mr. Campbell  said that  if the  supplemental                                                                   
bill is  passed, then this item  would not be  required other                                                                   
than to utilize the federal receipts.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #6334                                                                                                                   
AHFC Senior Citizens Housing Development Program                                                                                
$6,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell reported that the  funds are used for grants for                                                                   
municipalities    and    public   or    private    non-profit                                                                   
corporations,  in conjunction  with other  agencies, for  the                                                                   
development  of senior citizen  housing.   Funds can  be used                                                                   
for  the  purchase  of  building   sites,  site  preparation,                                                                   
materials,  construction,  and   rehabilitation  of  existing                                                                   
housing.      Organizations  qualified   to   apply   include                                                                   
municipalities and public or private  nonprofit corporations.                                                                   
Additional  components include  smaller grants for  nonprofit                                                                   
senior  organizations to  pay  for preparation  of plans  and                                                                   
project  feasibility  studies, appraisals,  site  preparation                                                                   
and  other  pre-development  activities.   This  program  has                                                                   
funded 931 units to date.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #6347                                                                                                                   
AHFC Housing and Urban Development Federal HOME Grant                                                                           
$750,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
$3,450,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell reported  that the purpose of the  request is to                                                                   
expand  the supply  of affordable,  low- and  moderate-income                                                                   
housing and to strengthen the  ability of the state to design                                                                   
and implement  strategies  to achieve  an adequate supply  of                                                                   
safe,  energy-efficient,   and  affordable  housing.     This                                                                   
program has  funded 44 rental  projects containing  818 units                                                                   
and  rehabilitated 373  low-income  homes.   It has  assisted                                                                   
another 315 low-income households to purchase homes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fauske  asked  for clarification  about  the  amount  of                                                                   
federal receipts.  Mr. Campbell  clarified that the amount is                                                                   
$3,450,000.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AT-EASE:       10:04:00 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE:     10:06:16 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell noted a handout with  more information regarding                                                                   
these  projects  entitled  "AHFC  Budget  Summary"  (copy  on                                                                   
file.)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #6342                                                                                                                   
AHFC Housing and Urban Development Capital Fund Program                                                                         
$3,200,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  summarized that the  purpose of the  program is                                                                   
to renovate  and modernize  the public  housing rental  units                                                                   
statewide.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #6348                                                                                                                   
AHFC Federal and Other Competitive Grants                                                                                       
$1,500,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
$3,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  related that  the request is  to allow  AHFC to                                                                   
apply for HUD,  other federal agency, and  private foundation                                                                   
grants that target the housing  needs and supportive services                                                                   
of  low-income  and  special needs  groups  such  as:  senior                                                                   
citizens,  the   mentally,  physically,  or   developmentally                                                                   
disabled, or the homeless.  AHFC  will also apply for energy-                                                                   
related grants  as they  relate to  housing.  When  required,                                                                   
AHFC will  provide the  needed matching funds.   Some  of the                                                                   
funds received  will be  passed through  to local  non-profit                                                                   
sub-grantee   organizations  that   deliver  housing   and/or                                                                   
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #6350                                                                                                                   
AHFC Competitive Grants for Public Housing                                                                                      
$250,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
$750,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  explained that this  request is similar  to the                                                                   
last  request, but  is directly  related  to public  housing.                                                                   
The purpose of the program is  to allow AHFC to apply for HUD                                                                   
and other grants that target housing  needs for low-income or                                                                   
special needs groups.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:09:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #6351                                                                                                                   
AHFC Energy Efficiency Monitoring Research                                                                                      
$1,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell said  that the project would use  AHFC funds for                                                                   
a designated  grant to Cold  Climate Housing Research  Center                                                                   
to  conduct  housing  construction  research,  analysis,  and                                                                   
information dissemination among  the housing industry and the                                                                   
public.   Data gathering  and analysis  is being  continually                                                                   
related   to   energy   efficiency   technology   for   homes                                                                   
constructed in northern building and market conditions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #32526                                                                                                                  
AHFC State Energy Program Special Projects                                                                                      
$30,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                           
$150,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  related  that  the  program  utilizes  Federal                                                                   
Department  of Energy  and Corporate  match  funds for  State                                                                   
Energy   Program   special   projects    such   as   building                                                                   
technologies,   Codes   and   Standards,   Wind   and   Power                                                                   
technologies,   renewable  energy   for   remote  areas,   or                                                                   
transportation technologies.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #40068                                                                                                                  
AHFC Statewide Project Improvements                                                                                             
$2,500,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell reported  that the purpose of the  project is to                                                                   
provide funding  to address known  and unknown  conditions in                                                                   
AHFC's housing  stock, the  rental units.   It utilizes  AHFC                                                                   
funds   to  provide   repairs,   deferred  maintenance,   and                                                                   
improvements to  AHFC-owned properties throughout  the state.                                                                   
This  project  will   allow  AHFC  to  keep   pace  with  the                                                                   
deterioration  of existing  components  of rental  properties                                                                   
such as roofs, sidewalks, and  common areas.  It will enhance                                                                   
operations, and  allow quick response  to ordinance  and code                                                                   
changes.   The primary  function of this  fund is  to address                                                                   
those major  or extraordinary work items  identified annually                                                                   
through the Physical Needs Assessments  by the public housing                                                                   
maintenance staff and Asset Supervisors.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:11:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #41531                                                                                                                  
Denali Commission Project                                                                                                       
$7,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell noted this item is funded by federal receipts.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #43076                                                                                                                  
AHFC Loussac Manor Renovation and Replacement Phase                                                                             
$2,336,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  explained the request  for funds for  a project                                                                   
which would begin  the second phase of renovation  to replace                                                                   
all structures  in  the Loussac  Manor.  The  funds would  be                                                                   
used to replace the housing, following  approval last year to                                                                   
replace the underground utilities  and infrastructure for the                                                                   
entire complex.   Following the completion of  a professional                                                                   
site assessment  that included cost estimates  to renovate or                                                                   
replace the existing structures,  it has been determined that                                                                   
it is not  economically feasible to renovate  the structures.                                                                   
This funding  request  would replace all  structures  under a                                                                   
phased plan that would use existing foundations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about the  phase plan.   Mr. Campbell                                                                   
replied  that about  the same  amount of money  is used  each                                                                   
year  for  four  years  to replace  all  62  units.  Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman  asked how  old the units  were.   Mr. Campbell  said                                                                   
they  were  built  in  1965.     There  are  21  multi-family                                                                   
residential buildings.  Mr. Fauske  added that there has been                                                                   
discussion of expansion  in order to maximize the  use of the                                                                   
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked how  many apartments  there were.   Mr.                                                                   
Campbell said 62 units.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:16:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #43079                                                                                                                  
AHFC Prison Expansion and Renovation                                                                                            
$1,000,000 Statutory Designated Program Receipts                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  reported that these Statutory  Designated funds                                                                   
are  for a  statewide  correction  facility/prisoner  housing                                                                   
project.   Following identification  of  a building  site and                                                                   
evaluation of  costs to provide the necessary  infrastructure                                                                   
and  utilities to  the proposed  Mat-SU Prison  site, it  was                                                                   
determined that  the construction budget allowed  under SB 65                                                                   
was  not  sufficient   to  absorb  additional   costs.    The                                                                   
Department  of Corrections  has  revised  their approach  and                                                                   
identified  a  strategy  to  expand  existing  facilities  at                                                                   
various locations  around the  state and  reduce the  size of                                                                   
the  proposed   facility.     AHFC  is  currently   assisting                                                                   
Corrections with  the initial  planning for the  new strategy                                                                   
through  a   limited  RSA  and   anticipates  the   need  for                                                                   
additional  spending authority  in  the next  fiscal year  to                                                                   
continue  to  provide planning  and  construction  management                                                                   
services to the Department of Corrections.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for more information  on the regional                                                                   
site expansions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BUTCHER,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON,  ALASKA HOUSING  FINANCE                                                                   
CORPORATION, explained  that the project  is on hold  at this                                                                   
point.   The  funds  are being  requested  in  case they  are                                                                   
needed.  Co-Chair  Hoffman asked of there has  been a request                                                                   
by the  Department of  Corrections regarding other  potential                                                                   
jails  in  Kodiak, Fairbanks,  or  Bethel.   He  thought  the                                                                   
Department of  Corrections was having financial  difficulties                                                                   
due to  higher construction  costs.   Mr. Fauske noted  there                                                                   
had been  several conversations.  He  said he did not  have a                                                                   
lot   of  information,   but  AHFC   is  offering   technical                                                                   
expertise.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked if the RSA  was from the MatSu Borough to                                                                   
AHFC.   Mr.  Fauske  answered  that the  RSA  is between  the                                                                   
Department of Corrections  and AHFC.  Senator  Elton asked if                                                                   
AHFC has  ever done work like  this for other  state agencies                                                                   
before.    Mr. Fauske  shared  past  projects AHFC  has  been                                                                   
involved with: dorms for Alaska  Vocational Technical Center,                                                                   
a project  in Seward,  purchase of the  Atwood Building.   He                                                                   
explained  AHFC's role  in this  project.   AHFC was not  the                                                                   
issuer of  the debt,  but would assist  the MatSu  Borough in                                                                   
issuing the debt, by offering technical advice.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton asked  why this  is an  AHFC capital  request,                                                                   
rather  than  from  the  Department   of  Corrections.    Mr.                                                                   
Campbell replied that it is related  to whatever happens with                                                                   
the department; however, it allows  AHFC to receive the funds                                                                   
if the project progresses.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  recalled  that  last  year  many  of  these                                                                   
projects were vetoed.   He wondered about the  timing of this                                                                   
request  because  of inflation.    Mr. Campbell  agreed  that                                                                   
there was  money in  last year's budget.   He explained  that                                                                   
this year  $2 million  would not  be enough  to complete  the                                                                   
project.  Senator Huggins voiced concern.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  agreed  with   Senator  Huggins  regarding  a                                                                   
request  to  receive  funds  from   an  agency  that  is  not                                                                   
requesting the  funds.  Mr. Fauske  pointed out that  AHFC is                                                                   
being proactive.  He clarified that this is a place holder.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:24:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas wondered  about  saving money  in the  design                                                                   
cost  by using  existing  prison design  plans.   Mr.  Fauske                                                                   
replied that there were previous  discussions on that matter.                                                                   
Mr. Butcher  explained that  the $30  million from  last year                                                                   
was vetoed to $2 million.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #45385                                                                                                                  
AHFC Chugach View Siding & Window Replacement                                                                                   
$2,500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  stated that this  request is funded  by federal                                                                   
receipts.    It  is  for  following  up  on  renovation  work                                                                   
completed several years ago on a 120-unit senior facility.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked what kind  of windows would  be used.                                                                   
Mr. Campbell  thought they  would energy efficiency  windows.                                                                   
Mr. Fauske offered to provide that information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:29:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45386                                                                                                                  
AHFC Etolin Heights Roofing Replacement                                                                                         
$500,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  explained  that the project  would replace  the                                                                   
existing  metal roof  on the  Market Housing  side of  Etolin                                                                   
Heights  family housing  complex  in Wrangell,  Alaska.   The                                                                   
roofing  was originally  installed in  1981 and continues  to                                                                   
leak.  Complete replacement is necessary.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #45387                                                                                                                  
AHFC Etolin Heights Mechanical Replacement                                                                                      
$450,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  said  that  the request  would  use  funds  to                                                                   
upgrade  heating  systems  at  the  Wrangell  family  housing                                                                   
properties.  This project would  facilitate the conversion of                                                                   
the existing oil-fired boiler  systems at both the Corporate-                                                                   
owned Market family housing and  Low Rent family housing to a                                                                   
cost   effective  heating   system  powered   by  the   local                                                                   
hydroelectric grid,  which is  less expensive to  operate and                                                                   
maintain than the current fuel oil heating systems.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:32:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45388                                                                                                                  
Etolin Heights Mechanical Replacement                                                                                           
$500,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell addressed the request  for AHFC Statewide Energy                                                                   
Improvements.  He  reported  that  the  funds  would  address                                                                   
specific  recommendations suggested  in  the required  energy                                                                   
audits performed  throughout the state.  The  audits identify                                                                   
specific  improvements that  can be  made to  the housing  to                                                                   
reduce energy consumption.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas asked  if the  mechanical  replacement was  a                                                                   
replacement of  the boiler with  an electric unit  that heats                                                                   
water or  a replacement of the  entire system.   Mr. Campbell                                                                   
explained  that it would  do away  with the oil-fired  burner                                                                   
and be  replaced with  electrical units,  which are  cheaper.                                                                   
Senator Thomas questioned replacing  the entire distribution.                                                                   
He suggested  heating  and circulating  water.  Mr.  Campbell                                                                   
referred to EEC recommendations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:34:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45389                                                                                                                  
AHFC Statewide ADA Improvements                                                                                                 
$500,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  explained  that  the  funding  is  to  address                                                                   
specific  recommendations suggested  in  the required  energy                                                                   
audits performed  throughout the  state.  Projected  outcomes                                                                   
are  to begin  to address  recommendations  suggested in  the                                                                   
audit,  maintain  federal  funding  by  complying  with  HUD,                                                                   
increase comfort of tenants, and increase unit rentability.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #45384                                                                                                                  
AHFC Bethel Community Room and Shop                                                                                             
$2,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell related  that the funds would be used  for a new                                                                   
community room in  Bethel.  The project combines  the need to                                                                   
replace  the existing  office/shop  and  provide a  community                                                                   
space for the  117 units of family housing  at Bethel Heights                                                                   
in  Bethel.   An  existing design  that  has been  previously                                                                   
constructed for AHFC properties  in Kodiak, Sitka, and Juneau                                                                   
will be used  that includes a shop area, community  room, and                                                                   
supporting offices.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for  a definition  of the shop  area.                                                                   
Mr. Campbell  explained  that it is  where maintenance  would                                                                   
store tools and inventory.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas thought  in rural areas it would  be common to                                                                   
have  the maintenance  shop  located in  the  facility.   Mr.                                                                   
Campbell  agreed that  they are  usually  located within  the                                                                   
grounds of the project.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:37:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #6359                                                                                                                   
AHFC Homeless Assistance Program                                                                                                
$1,000,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
$500,000 General Funds/Mental Health                                                                                            
$500,000 Mental Health Trust Funds                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell explained  that  the funds  are  for grants  to                                                                   
local  communities/agencies  to   help  develop  programs  to                                                                   
prevent homelessness  by providing assistance to  families in                                                                   
imminent  danger  of  becoming  homeless  or  those  who  are                                                                   
currently  homeless.   Corporate  funds  will  be matched  by                                                                   
Mental Health  Trust Authority  funds and be administered  by                                                                   
AHFC.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #6360                                                                                                                   
AHFC Beneficiary and Special Needs Housing                                                                                      
$1,750,000 AHFC Division                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  related  that the program  would provide  funds                                                                   
for   Alaskan  nonprofit   service   providers  and   housing                                                                   
developers  to  increase  housing   opportunities  to  Alaska                                                                   
Mental  Health Trust  beneficiaries and  other special  needs                                                                   
populations  throughout Alaska.   The  program has  developed                                                                   
118 units  since FY 2000.  In  FY 2008, 18 units  were funded                                                                   
for  persons  with  severe  mental  illness  and  development                                                                   
disabilities.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Campbell  shared   the  projected   outcomes:  add   16                                                                   
congregate housing  units for  people with mental  illness or                                                                   
developmental   disabilities,   reduce   recidivism   amongst                                                                   
clients  in  institutions,  provide  supportive  housing  for                                                                   
people  who qualify,  and  provide transitional  housing  for                                                                   
newly recovering alcoholics and addicts.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #43318                                                                                                                  
AHFC  Emergency Assistance  Grants  for  Mental Health  Trust                                                                   
Beneficiaries                                                                                                                   
$200,000 Mental Health Trust Funds                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell said that these are  funds for grants to support                                                                   
beneficiaries of the Alaska Mental  Health Trust Authority to                                                                   
prevent loss  of housing that  might occur due  to unforeseen                                                                   
events such as institutionalization.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Project #45390                                                                                                                  
Housing Trust                                                                                                                   
$2,500,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                               
$2,500,000 General Fund/MH                                                                                                      
$2,500,000 SD                                                                                                                   
$2,500,000 Corporate Receipts                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell reported  that the request is to  create a trust                                                                   
that  would address  two main  issues  in Alaska:  preventing                                                                   
homelessness  and   creating  affordable  housing   for  low-                                                                   
moderate income renters and homeowners.   Funds would be used                                                                   
to assist projects that provide  housing for the homeless, to                                                                   
prevent  homelessness,  and to  create  long-term  affordable                                                                   
housing.  Eligible  projects would include  new construction,                                                                   
rehabilitation, rental assistance and homeless services.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell reported that the  outcomes would be a reduction                                                                   
in  the number  of homeless  persons that  interact with  the                                                                   
social  service system,  a reduction  in the  public cost  of                                                                   
emergency   and  institutional   services   that  treat   the                                                                   
homeless, an expansion  of the community based  mental health                                                                   
system, and a strong evaluation component.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked if  the  last  item was  the  lowest                                                                   
priority.   Mr.  Campbell  reported  that all  programs  have                                                                   
equal  priority.   Co-Chair Stedman  requested a  prioritized                                                                   
list.  Mr. Fauske agreed to do that.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AT-EASE:       10:44:03 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    10:53:41 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                  DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
MARK LEWIS, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT, explained the department's                                                                     
allocations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45623                                                                                                                  
Mt. Edgecumbe High School Deferred Maintenance                                                                                  
$1,914,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lewis reported that the request was originally funded                                                                       
through Alaska Student Loan Corporation bonds, but it has                                                                       
been switched to the Alaska Capital Investment funds or                                                                         
miscellaneous earnings.  He shared the history of updating                                                                      
the 6-year Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) master plan for                                                                       
Mt. Edgecumbe.  He described the items mentioned in the                                                                         
facility audit.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted appreciation for the Department of                                                                       
Education's project ranking lists.  He requested an                                                                             
explanation of the rankings of the projects before the                                                                          
committee.  Mr. Lewis described  how the department ranks its                                                                   
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked what the current status of the                                                                           
Kasayulie Case.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EDDY JEANS, DIRECTOR, EDUCATION  SUPPORT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                   
OF EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT, replied that in the                                                                         
Kasayulie Case, the judge issued a decision, but there was                                                                      
additional work to be done on the trust fund that is still                                                                      
pending.  The department continues  to follow the CIP process                                                                   
where districts submit applications.  The applications are                                                                      
prioritized on the major maintenance  and school construction                                                                   
lists and those are presented to the legislature.  Co-Chair                                                                     
Hoffman pointed out that no school  that would have addressed                                                                   
the Kasayulie Case has been submitted  by the Administration.                                                                   
He questioned if there was a need to address those schools                                                                      
at this time.  Mr. Jeans replied  that since the decision was                                                                   
issued for the Kasayulie Case, the legislature has funded                                                                       
numerous projects statewide, throughout rural Alaska,                                                                           
through various funding mechanisms.  The department                                                                             
continues to follow the process that was established in                                                                         
1994.  Co-Chair Hoffman wondered why the department is not                                                                      
coming forth with more construction projects.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman reported on the list of ranked items.                                                                          
MatSu High School is listed as number one, with Anchorage                                                                       
East high at number 21.  In between, the rankings from 2-20                                                                     
vary, from Lower Yukon and Lower Kuskokwim, to Hyder.    He                                                                     
asked how the department interacts with the group that                                                                          
compiles the prioritized list.   Mr. Lewis explained that the                                                                   
department creates the priority lists and submits both lists                                                                    
to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).  They then                                                                        
request $100 million a year to address the facility needs                                                                       
around the state.  The department works with OMB to                                                                             
determine how $100 million will be allocated between the two                                                                    
lists.  Co-Chair Stedman said $100 million total.  Mr. Jeans                                                                    
reported that $100 million has been the department's                                                                            
standing request for at least the last ten years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked how many years it would take to go                                                                       
through the current major maintenance and construction                                                                          
priority lists.  Mr. Jeans replied about ten years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman commented that $350 million three years ago                                                                    
took out the entire major maintenance list.  He noted that                                                                      
there is currently a similarly-sized list as three years                                                                        
ago.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:04:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans requested that the committee go by the November 5                                                                     
CIP list due to several recent changes.  Co-Chair Stedman                                                                       
asked if both the major maintenance and new construction                                                                        
lists from November 5 should be considered.  Mr. Jeans said                                                                     
the only changes were on the major maintenance list.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      11:06:23 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    2:47:06 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                         UNIVERSITY                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
Co-Chair Stedman asked that the university begin with                                                                           
priorities and rank their requests.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PAT PITNEY, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA, BUDGET AND PLANNING,                                                                          
addressed priorities.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #45326                                                                                                                  
Maintaining Existing Facilities and Equipment Renewal and                                                                       
Renovation (R & R) Annual Requirement                                                                                           
$40,000,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                          
$1,000,000 Univ Rcpt                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney related that major renewal and renovation (R & R)                                                                    
is the first priority, a $50 million annual need.  The                                                                          
second priority is the UAF BIOS Facility, and the third                                                                         
priority is the UAA Health Sciences Building.  After that                                                                       
the priority is backlog on R & R.  She noted the Governor's                                                                     
budget allots $40 million for major R & R.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman clarified that those are requests for                                                                          
consideration by the Senate Finance Committee.  She agreed                                                                      
they were in the Governor's original budget, not the current                                                                    
CS.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #45648                                                                                                                  
Statewide Annual Capital Renewal and Renovation Requirement                                                                     
$500,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
$1,000,000 Univ Rcpt                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney elaborated upon the allocation for statewide                                                                         
annual R & R for data center upgrades.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney expressed several general statements about the                                                                       
University's Major R & R.  It has been the Board's top                                                                          
capital priority over the last ten years.  The request is                                                                       
split between $50 million and $70 million.  $50 million is                                                                      
the annual capital need for major projects.  The Board                                                                          
requires every campus dedicate a minimum of 1.5 percent of                                                                      
the facility value to its maintenance funding.  She                                                                             
explained the difference between major R & R and daily                                                                          
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
She reported that the university has dedicated funds to                                                                         
maintain facilities, but due to the aging of the facilities                                                                     
major R & R is needed.  She went on to say that there is a                                                                      
backlog of $700 million in major R & R.  She explained that                                                                     
the request represents long-term planning for facilities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested more information about Project #                                                                     
45648.  Ms. Pitney said the funds were to upgrade the                                                                           
Butrovich Data Center Office of Information Technology.  The                                                                    
$1 million receipt authority is a shared renovation project                                                                     
with The Arctic Region Super Computer.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45644                                                                                                                  
UA-Fairbanks and Tanana Valley Campus Annual Capital Renewal                                                                    
and Renovation Requirement                                                                                                      
$19,587,419                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She explained that the allocation of the $50 million is                                                                         
based on space and age of facility.  She acknowledged that                                                                      
there are more requests than the total appropriation can                                                                        
accommodate.  She provided examples.  In Fairbanks there are                                                                    
four projects that would be addressed because not all                                                                           
projects on the list can be renovated this year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked how much the various phases for the                                                                      
Arctic Health Research Building cost.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MARK WOHLFORD, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (UAF), responded that the first phase cost $5.7                                                                       
million, phase 3 is about $7-$8 million, and phase 4 will be                                                                    
approximately $25-$30 million.  Co-Chair Hoffman requested                                                                      
information about the timeframe for phases 3 and 4.  Mr.                                                                        
Wohlford replied that phase 3 is scheduled for FY 2011 and                                                                      
phase 4 is scheduled for FY 2013.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman summarized that the project totals in                                                                          
excess of $70 million in repairs.  Mr. Wohlford agreed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton wanted to know how  management decisions are                                                                      
made with regards to which fisheries research projects occur                                                                    
in the UAF building and which ones occur in the new Juneau                                                                      
Fisheries Lab next to the NOAA Lab.  Ms. Pitney offered to                                                                      
get back to the Committee with that information.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained the phases of the renovation of the old                                                                    
Fairbanks Courthouse for UAF.   Co-Chair Hoffman asked where                                                                    
the explanation was located in the University of Alaska                                                                         
Fiscal Year 2009 Operating & Capital Budget Request book -                                                                      
"Redbook".  Ms. Pitney said it was on pages 34 and 40.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked if the  projects were listed in order                                                                    
of priority.  Ms. Pitney said  the list was prioritized on                                                                      
page 34.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked how much were phases 1 and 3 in the                                                                      
Barnette Exterior Renovation.  Mr. Wohlford replied that the                                                                    
first phase cost $4 million and  is being used now.  Phase 3                                                                    
is scheduled for FY 2011 for $14  million.  Co-Chair Hoffman                                                                    
summarized a total of a little over $36 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman ask how prioritization is done between                                                                         
different areas.  Ms. Pitney said  priorities are based on                                                                      
several factors, one being whether  or not a full project is                                                                    
ready to go.  Each campus has  several urgent projects.  She                                                                    
reiterated that the $40 million  does not cover beyond the                                                                      
first few priorities of any campus.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked what the appropriation for the                                                                           
Kuskokwim campus was last year.   Ms. Pitney said it was for                                                                    
$4 million.  Co-Chair Hoffman asked if the Kuskokwim project                                                                    
was funded last year.  Ms. Pitney itemized what had been                                                                        
funded for Kuskokwim.  She listed the prioritized                                                                               
appropriations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:08:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45645                                                                                                                  
UAF-Community Campuses Annual Capital Renewal and Renovation                                                                    
Requirement                                                                                                                     
$677,403 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney reported on the funding  that would be directed                                                                      
toward critical deferred renewal  at the Northwest Campus.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked how far down the list this                                                                               
appropriation goes.  Ms. Pitney responded that it goes a                                                                        
quarter of the way into the first  project.  Co-Chair Hoffman                                                                   
asked if other projects are partially funded.  Ms. Pitney                                                                       
said that they are this year, but they were not last year.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked why community campuses are not high                                                                      
on the list.  Ms. Pitney reiterated  that the priorities are                                                                    
based on space and age of facility.   She explained how full                                                                    
projects are executed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman inquired, of the $100 million being                                                                            
requested, if the $677,000 is  for rural community campuses.                                                                    
Ms. Pitney clarified that the  amount is $677,000 under a $40                                                                   
million scenario and only the  top one or two priorities are                                                                    
addressed.  She noted that the list on page 34 equals a                                                                         
total of $700 million over several years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #45646                                                                                                                  
UA-Juneau Annual Capital Renewal  and Renovation Requirement                                                                    
$10,200,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained that this  project has been on the R & R                                                                   
list for 10 years.  The use of  the facility is changing from                                                                   
the school of fisheries research facility to the primary                                                                        
science building for UAS.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton noted that if this issue had been addressed                                                                       
sooner, it would have cost less.   He referenced project item                                                                   
#45326 and quoted, "allows appropriate  flexibility to adjust                                                                   
the scope of work" and "with FY  09 funding and complete the                                                                    
projects with future year funding."   He thought the language                                                                   
imprecise and would allow the projects too easily to be                                                                         
phased in.  He requested some assurance that the Anderson                                                                       
facility would be completed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney said it is the intention to move the Anderson                                                                        
project to completion.  Ms. Pitney explained that the                                                                           
language was needed to provide  some flexibility in the four                                                                    
Fairbanks priorities.  Senator Elton clarified that the                                                                         
wording "adjust the scope of work" is not referring to the                                                                      
Anderson Building.  Ms. Pitney agreed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOHN PUGH, CHANCELLOR, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA, SOUTHEAST,                                                                         
supplied specifics of the dialog around the Anderson                                                                            
building and its completion, as  it has been on the books for                                                                   
some time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if the allocation would be the same                                                                      
if the appropriation were $70 million.  Ms. Pitney related                                                                      
that the allocations would be  based on the square footage of                                                                   
the buildings.  The distribution would follow the                                                                               
established criteria, as shown on page 30 of the Redbook.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:16:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #45647                                                                                                                  
UAS-Community Campuses Annual  Capital Renewal and Renovation                                                                   
Requirement                                                                                                                     
$356,392 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted that Ketchikan  and Sitka have a total                                                                   
of $5.7  million in  projects.   He asked  how long  the wait                                                                   
would be  to fund these smaller  projects.  Ms.  Pitney noted                                                                   
that  the  Ketchikan  facility  has  been  almost  completely                                                                   
refurbished.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pugh pointed  out that the Sitka project  comes under the                                                                   
$70 million  scenario and  would be fully  funded.   The Paul                                                                   
Building is part of the $50 million scenario.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45642                                                                                                                  
UAS-Anchorage   Annual   Capital   Renewal   and   Renovation                                                                   
Requirement                                                                                                                     
$7,255,548 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney listed  the Anchorage priorities:  UAA Campus Roof                                                                   
Replacement,   UAA  Fire   Alarm  Panel   Upgrade,  UAA   Gas                                                                   
Extraction System  at Merrill Field, and UAA  Campus Heating,                                                                   
Ventilation,  and Air  Conditioning (HVAC)  Upgrades.   These                                                                   
represent the  top 4 priorities of  the 20 listed on  page 33                                                                   
of the Redbook.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked if the same  criteria are used  as they                                                                   
have  been in  the past.   Ms.  Pitney  confirmed; the  added                                                                   
criterion is program  usefulness.  She added that  if it is a                                                                   
safety issue it needs to be fixed or shut down.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45643                                                                                                                  
UAA-Community Campuses Annual  Capital Renewal and Renovation                                                                   
Requirement                                                                                                                     
$1,423,238 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  explained  the  two-part  request:  fire  system                                                                   
upgrades  and cable  plant  renewal.   She  added that  there                                                                   
would be further requests if it is funded at $70 million.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about technology  issues, specifically                                                                   
the acquisition of  fiber optics.  He wondered if  there is a                                                                   
need  for  funds  for  that  purpose.    Mr.  Pugh  said  for                                                                   
Southeast campuses,  the cable systems are fine  and ready to                                                                   
be hooked up to the new system.   He noted that 30 percent of                                                                   
students  at Sitka  and Ketchikan  are  enrolled in  distance                                                                   
education.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney reported  on future scenarios relating  to funding                                                                   
R  &  R.   She  emphasized  adequate  and  consistent R  &  R                                                                   
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:28:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #43218                                                                                                                  
Planning, Design, and Capital Projects Receipt Authority                                                                        
$20,000,000 University Receipts                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney outlined  the use  of the  Planning, Design,  and                                                                   
Capital  projects receipt  authority  and provided  examples.                                                                   
She described past projects.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested clarification  about the potential                                                                   
receipt authority needed from  FY 2009 to FY 2014, instead of                                                                   
from FY 2009  to FY 2010.   Ms. Pitney explained that  it was                                                                   
established  on a 6-year  horizon.   There are no  particular                                                                   
projects in  mind; however, the  idea is to make  the request                                                                   
for the  authority, so when small  projects come up  they can                                                                   
be funded.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if the number was cut  in half, would                                                                   
the  University be  able  to add  funds  later.   Ms.  Pitney                                                                   
explained  that there  is no  revenue in  hand requiring  the                                                                   
authority; it was a matter of timing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:32:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45339                                                                                                                  
UAA Small Business Development Center                                                                                           
$550,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney related  that this request has always  been in the                                                                   
capital budget.   There is a move in the House  to move it to                                                                   
the operating budget.  The University  has no preference, but                                                                   
thought it was more appropriate in the operating budget.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked why this item  was not at the  top of                                                                   
the priority  list.  Ms.  Pitney explained that  this request                                                                   
is a traditional capital appropriation, a "must".                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  suggested  that  it  be listed  as  a  top                                                                   
priority.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #43209                                                                                                                  
UAA Student Housing - Phase 2                                                                                                   
$7,900,000 University Receipts                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained that additional  funding would be needed                                                                   
to complete  this project.  The  housing fees cover  the bond                                                                   
payments  on  housing  structure  and cannot  fund  the  full                                                                   
amount that  would be required.   She noted that  the request                                                                   
is listed under additional capital needs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked for  comments  on the  challenge  of                                                                   
deciding which requests to fund if there are limited funds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney shared  that the Board of Regents'  priorities are                                                                   
clear:  maintaining existing  facilities  is  the number  one                                                                   
priority.    She  informed the  Committee  of  the  financial                                                                   
benefits leveraged by research,  which is dependent on space.                                                                   
She explained  the current ratio  of space to research.   The                                                                   
University is maxed  out on space, so a  financial investment                                                                   
in new facilities is needed in order to increase research.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  for an  explanation  of bonding  for                                                                   
some  of  the  larger requests.    Ms.  Pitney  replied  that                                                                   
General  Obligation bonds  are an acceptable  way to  finance                                                                   
new  facilities.   Revenue  bonds and  the  use of  operating                                                                   
sources are not doable.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  about  the source  of  funding  for                                                                   
student  housing listed  in  the  Redbook on  page  45.   Ms.                                                                   
Pitney replied that  the $9.720 million is not  included in a                                                                   
budget,  therefore  even if  the  receipt authority  of  $7.9                                                                   
million is received, the project could not go forward.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45331                                                                                                                  
UAF  Alaska  Regional  Research   Vessel  Additional  Receipt                                                                   
Authority                                                                                                                       
$45,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  said this is  fully funded with federal  dollars.                                                                   
The  request   is  the  remainder  of  the   federal  receipt                                                                   
authority to cover  the construction of the  research vessel.                                                                   
It is  a National Science  Foundation project and  the School                                                                   
of Fisheries is the lead contract.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked where the  ship is located  and where                                                                   
and when funds would be requested.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained that the  construction of the ship is in                                                                   
the design phase.  Once it goes  to bid, it is three years to                                                                   
operation.  It  would be docked at the Seward  facility where                                                                   
the School of  Fisheries has a research facility.   She noted                                                                   
that  the  University   operates  and  maintains   the  ship;                                                                   
however, the  ship contracts  out for  use by the  scientific                                                                   
community nationwide.   Operating  costs would be  externally                                                                   
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  why the ship would not  be located in                                                                   
Juneau.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pugh said he was not clear  why the decision was made for                                                                   
the ship  to be located  in Seward,  except that  perhaps the                                                                   
ship would often go out to the  Bering Sea.  Seward is closer                                                                   
than Juneau to the Bering Sea.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked how  far  out  the agreement  with  the                                                                   
National  Science Foundation  goes.   Ms.  Pitney said  those                                                                   
details could  be provided at a  later date.  She  added that                                                                   
the  lifespan  of the  ship  was  the  duration of  the  last                                                                   
agreement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked if the cost  of the dock facilities could                                                                   
be done through  bonding.  Ms. Pitney explained  that she did                                                                   
not think  that possible  due  to set operating  costs.   She                                                                   
offered to look further into that.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman suggested  that some  docks are dormant  in                                                                   
the winter, so the ship could be docked elsewhere.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:47:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  asked how  much  is  being spent  on  charter                                                                   
vessels.   Ms. Pitney said  the expenses would  be associated                                                                   
with research grants and are generally  built into the grant.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  assumed there  were federal rules  prohibiting                                                                   
the  use  of  surplus  moorage.    Ms.  Pitney  informed  the                                                                   
Committee that she could provide further information.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:50:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney referred  to a list of BOR Priority  Capital Needs                                                                   
on page  29 of the  Redbook.   The Anchorage Health  Sciences                                                                   
Building, which  hadn't been previously mentioned,  is one of                                                                   
the top priorities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman  commented   that   campuses  other   than                                                                   
Anchorage,  Fairbanks,  and  Juneau  are doing  well  in  the                                                                   
capital budget; however, rural campuses are being ignored.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       3:51:46 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    4:10:51 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
4:11:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,  addressed the project  request                                                                   
list.  He noted  a revised priority list dated  3/13 (copy on                                                                   
file.)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #40007                                                                                                                  
Anchorage Aircraft Hangar Replacement                                                                                           
$3,000,000 General Funds                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  GLASS,   DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT   OF  PUBLIC                                                                   
SAFETY,  explained  the  history of  the  Anchorage  Aircraft                                                                   
Hangar.  In the past several years,  OSHA has failed numerous                                                                   
areas of the  hanger and the storage facility  was condemned.                                                                   
He added  that recently  the city  of Anchorage notified  the                                                                   
department that the two office  buildings are in violation of                                                                   
municipal  code and  have  been given  a  one-year period  of                                                                   
grace.   The  request  is for  a new  hanger  on the  present                                                                   
building space.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer explained the details of the repairs needed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #6121                                                                                                                   
Aircraft Vessel Repair and Maintenance                                                                                          
$1,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  said that this is  an annual request.   He noted                                                                   
that   backup  was   provided   to  the   members  and   some                                                                   
circumstances have changed since  the organizing of requests.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #37774                                                                                                                  
AST Law Enforcement Equipment Replacement                                                                                       
$500,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer outlined  the specifics of the equipment  used by                                                                   
the Alaska State Troopers.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #41788                                                                                                                  
Facilities Deferred Maintenance, Repairs, and Improvements                                                                      
$1,715,000                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  noted a variety of  allocations.  The  first two                                                                   
refer to  the aircraft hanger  project #6121.  Until  the new                                                                   
hanger is built, the old one must  be maintained.  The design                                                                   
cost  of  the  new  Lake  Hood   Aircraft  hanger  is  listed                                                                   
separately.    The design  and  construction  costs could  be                                                                   
combined.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:19:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  where the  new  hangar would  be.   Mr.                                                                   
Spencer said  the intent  is to use  existing land.   Senator                                                                   
Olson  asked if  there  is space  for it  there.   Mr.  Glass                                                                   
responded  with details  regarding  the building  of the  new                                                                   
hangar.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  if the  master plan  for the  Anchorage                                                                   
airport has  approved the project.   Mr. Glass said  they had                                                                   
not  talked to  the  airport directly.    He  noted that  the                                                                   
property belongs  to DPS.   Senator Olson related  that there                                                                   
are height restrictions.   He wanted to know  about long-term                                                                   
plans for building  future hangers.  Mr. Glass  reported that                                                                   
due to the numbers  of planes on floats, there  is a need for                                                                   
hanger space at Lake Hood.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:21:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer turned  to the allocation for Crime  Lab facility                                                                   
repair  and improvements  including  security system  upgrade                                                                   
and fuel storage tank replacement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  reported  that the  Bethel  office  repair  and                                                                   
renovation   would   include   wiring,   insulation,   energy                                                                   
efficient windows,  and related refurbishment and  a security                                                                   
system at the Trooper Post.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  described  the   Dillingham  office  foundation                                                                   
repair and renovation, underground storage tank removal.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  addressed  the  Fairbanks  state  trooper  post                                                                   
repair/renovation  including HVAC, water heater  replacement,                                                                   
ceiling  and  light replacement,  and  evidence  cold-storage                                                                   
construction.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained the Ketchikan trooper  office deferred                                                                   
maintenance    including    roof    replacement,    waterline                                                                   
repair/replacement.   The facility  was acquired  three years                                                                   
ago and the roof has always been problematic.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer reported  on the allocation for  $383,958 for the                                                                   
rural trooper office and housing  repairs.  He explained that                                                                   
maintaining  facilities  in rural  areas  is  costly.   Money                                                                   
would be reallocated as necessary.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer related  that the  next allocation  was for  the                                                                   
Sitka  training academy  repair/renovation including  heating                                                                   
control upgrades.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained that  the last  allocation is  for the                                                                   
Soldotna    state    trooper     post    facility    deferred                                                                   
maintenance/repair/renovation/improvements   including   fire                                                                   
alarm and lighting upgrades and impound lot construction.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD45300                                                                                                               
AWT Law Enforcement Equipment Replacement                                                                                       
$475,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer described the allocation  as an equipment request                                                                   
in  order to  "keep  doing  our jobs."    He noted  that  the                                                                   
allocation could change during the course of the year.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD45337                                                                                                               
AST Mobile Data Computers                                                                                                       
$480,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer noted  the companion projects.  The  intent is to                                                                   
establish  a data system  and get  away from the  paper-based                                                                   
reporting system.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson mentioned  a spin-off of the data  system which                                                                   
could identify whether there is  a parolee or foster child at                                                                   
a  residence.   Mr.  Spencer  deferred  to Mr.  Holloway  who                                                                   
concurred.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   asked  if  this  appropriation   includes                                                                   
training on the new system.  Mr. Spencer said no.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AUDIE HOLLOWAY,  COLONEL, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF  ALASKA STATE                                                                   
TROOPERS,  DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,  said that  training                                                                   
can be  accommodated with  present funds.   Co-Chair  Hoffman                                                                   
asked  if  the  funds  requested   would  cover  all  trooper                                                                   
vehicles.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Holloway  said that it  would accommodate  most vehicles.                                                                   
Co-Chair Hoffman asked  if it would be more  than 80 percent.                                                                   
He also  wanted to know which  areas of the state  would have                                                                   
these computers installed.  Mr.  Holloway clarified that they                                                                   
would be statewide.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if  the troopers  in Emmonek would  have                                                                   
the  computer in  their  vehicles.   Mr.  Holloway said  they                                                                   
would.  Mr. Holloway explained  all the services the computer                                                                   
can provide.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:30:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked if  other law  enforcement agencies  are                                                                   
using  this  type of  system.    Mr. Holloway  reported  that                                                                   
almost  all other  law enforcement  agencies  are using  this                                                                   
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #42920                                                                                                                  
Fire Training Engine for Southeast Regional Training Center                                                                     
$350,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained  that in  FY 06 a  training engine  in                                                                   
Fairbanks was  funded.  It is  essential for firemen  to have                                                                   
training equipment  to work  on that is  new.  This  training                                                                   
engine would be located in Southeast Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if  the fire engine  would be  also used                                                                   
for  fighting  fires.    Mr. Spencer  said  it  is  only  for                                                                   
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #45325                                                                                                                  
Crime Laboratory Equipment Replacement                                                                                          
$100,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  said  the  project   would  replace  aging  and                                                                   
outdated equipment.   He explained how  equipment replacement                                                                   
works.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45304                                                                                                                  
AST Communication Equipment                                                                                                     
$500,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer reported  that the  allocation  would allow  the                                                                   
department  to  buy  additional   portable  vehicle  mounted,                                                                   
vessel mounted,  and aircraft mounted radios,  and transition                                                                   
to Alaska Land Mobile Radios (ALMR).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  clarified that  this equipment replacement  is                                                                   
phase 1.   He  asked what  the expected  costs for the  other                                                                   
phases would be.   Mr. Spencer said there will  be additional                                                                   
costs, but they are not known.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  said there is some skepticism  regarding how                                                                   
much ALMR will cost.  He noted concern with this.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer understood  the concern.  The fact  is that there                                                                   
is uncertainty  regarding costs.  Senator  Huggins understood                                                                   
there  are  hardware  costs  and user  costs.    Mr.  Spencer                                                                   
agreed.  He listed the governance concerns.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked  if there are multiple  vendors for the                                                                   
equipment.  Mr. Spencer said there are.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton noted that  the rational  states "these  funds                                                                   
would also support efforts to  carry ALMR into areas where it                                                                   
is not  currently available  to troopers."   He assumed  that                                                                   
does   not  include   paying   for  costs   for  the   ground                                                                   
infrastructure.  He  wondered if it is attempt  to expand the                                                                   
area covered by ALMR.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  said  he would get  back to  the Committee  with                                                                   
that  information.    He  noted   communication  issues  even                                                                   
outside the  major grid.   Senator  Elton concluded  that the                                                                   
funds would  not be  used for  transmitters or for  expanding                                                                   
the  geographical  area in  which  ALMR  is available.    Mr.                                                                   
Spencer concurred.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #45524                                                                                                                  
Facilities Engineering Assessments,  Repair, and Improvements                                                                   
$350,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  said there needs  to be a comprehensive  look at                                                                   
all facilities and a long-range  plan developed.  It has been                                                                   
15 years since that was done.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45319                                                                                                                  
Fairbanks Regional Fire Training Center Burn Building                                                                           
$395,000 General Funds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  reported  that they  would like  to build  a new                                                                   
two-story fire building for training.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked how many  fire training burn buildings                                                                   
there are in the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DAVE TYLER, DIRECTOR,  STATE FIRE MARSHALL, DIVISION  OF FIRE                                                                   
PREVENTION, DEPARTMENT  OF PUBLIC  SAFETY, said there  is one                                                                   
in  Juneau  that  is  state funded  and  this  one  is  being                                                                   
requested in Fairbanks.  Mr. Spencer  clarified that there is                                                                   
an existing training center in Fairbanks.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #35825                                                                                                                  
Marine Fisheries Patrol Improvements                                                                                            
$2,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer reported  that  this has  been  included in  the                                                                   
capital  budget,  but may  belong  in the  operating  budget.                                                                   
Some of  the funding will cross  state fiscal years.   It has                                                                   
been used as a capital project.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #38479                                                                                                                  
Rural Law Enforcement Training and Equipment                                                                                    
$1,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer reported that this  is federal funds and includes                                                                   
training  for  village  police  officers  and  tribal  police                                                                   
officers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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